Dinky 410 Bedford CF Van

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This DINKY 410 Bedford CF van seems to come in several variations - many not listed in the usual references (Dinky Toys by Dr Edward Force, Ramsay's British Diecast Model Toys Catalogue [12th Edition], Hornby Companion Series Vol 4). Manufactured in the 1970s this model has been referenced as still in production when the factory closed.

Correct classification of the model is often difficult due to the casting's popularity with Code 2 and 3 modelers and the fact that some references include Code 1, 2 and 3 models in their listings without identifying which code applies to any given model. Further confusion is generated by various so-called experts who infer their position on a model is correct and that they have the "true" story behind its production.

Please Note: This page states my consideration of a model's status and is no more correct than any other you might come across on the internet — like many other commentators I cannot provide empirical evidence backing my position

A large number of the variations of this van are items produced by John Gay. John Gay was a specialist model dealer in Kent who, when the Dinky factory closed down, purchased several hundred "blanks" and left-over decals. The blanks were then re-liveried with various logos and sold. These are often stated to be re-finished CODE 2 models licensed by MECCANO and distributed by JOHN GAY. I have now completed a new page with a listing of all the models issued by J-M Roulet and John Gay and have transferred some of the information previously contained on this page to the new page.

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Item 930


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-3 Bedford Van in black over red "Simpsons" livery. It was unboxed when I bought it and since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model sold by Simpsons of Canada.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed on to the body casting. Each side carries a small paper label in white and black lettering. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge and a white lettering on red background "Simpson's" label. The roof is a "Type R" - ribbed roof without square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued 1972 for Simpsons of Canada.

Item: 930

 

Item 2854


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-4 Bedford Van in black over bronze "Belaco" livery. It was unboxed when I bought it and since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model given as a promotional item to customers of Belaco (manufacturers and distributors of brake and clutch parts).

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed on to the body casting. Each side carries a small paper label in white and black lettering on a gold background. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge and another smaller label with white and black lettering on a gold background "Belaco" label. The roof is a "Type R" - ribbed roof without square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate is black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued 1974 as a promotional item for Belaco.

Item: 2854

 

Item 3023


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-4 Bedford Van in black over bronze "Belaco" livery. It was unboxed when I bought it and since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model given as a promotional item to customers of Belaco (manufacturers and distributors of brake and clutch parts).

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed on to the body casting. Each side carries a small paper label in white and black lettering on a gold background. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge but no smaller "Belaco" label as on my other model and there is no evidence of there ever having been a smaller label on the rear doors. The roof is a "Type R" - ribbed roof without square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate is black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued 1974 as a promotional item for Belaco.

Item: 3023

 

Item 929


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-5 Bedford Van in dark Blue "John Menzies" livery. It was unboxed when I purchased it and since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model given as a promotional item available only at branches of John Menzies (a general stationers and book shop).

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed on to the body casting. Each side carries a label (or possibly a decal) in white lettering. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type R" - ribbed roof without square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued 1974-75.

Item: 929

 

Item 1067


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-8 Bedford Van in white "MJ Hire + Service" livery. It is packed in standard Dinky pedestal/cellophane style packaging and since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model with a quantity being available for general sale at the instigation of MJ Hire. It was not listed in the catalogues.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed on to the body casting. Each side carries a paper label in Red and Black lettering. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued in numbers 1975-76.

Item: 1067

 

Item 1189


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-8 Bedford Van in white "MJ Hire + Service" livery. It is packed in standard Dinky pedestal/cellophane style packaging where the cellophane cover has browned with age and exposure to light and is breaking apart. Since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model with a quantity being available for general sale at the instigation of MJ Hire. It was not listed in the catalogues.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed on to the body casting. Each side carries a paper label in Red and Black lettering. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued in numbers 1975-76.

Item: 1189

 

Item 2828


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H-10 Bedford Van in white "Modeller's World" livery. It is unboxed. Since I cannot locate any reference to John Gay it is accepted by me as a Code 1 model (produced fully by the Meccano company) as it is listed in several references and noted in "The Great Book of Dinky Toys" by Mike and Sue Richardson as a special run model with a quantity of 200 only being sold to readers of the Modeller's World magazine.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights are mask sprayed in silver on to the body casting. Each side carries a water-slide decal in Dark Blue lettering, positioned to the centre top and another circular decal of an aero engine and propeller in dark blue, positioned just behind the doors. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but are not highlighted by any alternate colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" 8 spoke center "hub".

The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets.

This model was issued 1976 as a limited release of 200.

Item: 2878