Dinky 410 and 412 Bedford CF Van - Code 3

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This DINKY 410 and 412 Bedford CF van seems to come in several variations - many not listed in the usual references (Dinky Toys by Dr Edward Force, Ramsay's British Diecast Model Toys Catalogue [12th Edition], Hornby Companion Series Vol 4). Manufactured in the 1970s this model has been referenced as still in production when the factory closed.

Correct classification of the model is often difficult due to the casting's popularity with Code 2 and 3 modelers and the fact that some references include Code 1, 2 and 3 models in their listings without identifying which code applies to any given model. Further confusion is generated by various so-called experts who infer their position on a model is correct and that they have the "true" story behind its production.

Please Note: This page states my consideration of a model's status and is no more correct than any other you might come across on the internet — like many other commentators I cannot always provide empirical evidence backing my position but will do where I can

I have now completed a new page with a listing of all the models issued by J-M Roulet and John Gay and have transferred some of the information previously contained on the Dinky 410 page to a new page. The Dinky issues can be found at the original page.

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Item 1203


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H Bedford Van in dark red "Camel" livery. It was unboxed when I purchased it and since I cannot locate any reference to Dinky or John Gay having produced this model, it is accepted by me as an unattributed Code 3 model until further information comes to hand.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille and front lights (including the side lights) are picked out in silver and orange paint. The front bumper and numberplate are in the body colour. Each side carries a decal (water slide transfer?) with Silver and Dark Blue "CAMEL" lettering plus a camel logo. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting but only the rear indicators are highlighted in orange. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic without a "chromed" center "hub". The centre still has the 8 spoke pattern to the hub.

The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets and there is no indication that the model has been disassembled.

The original model was issued 1972-79, I have no idea when this Code 3 version was made.

Item: 1203

 

Item 1389


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H Bedford Van in light blue "ebay" livery. It was made by a Code 3 specialist called "Ishimar" from whom I purchased it. Ishimar produces an associated, colour printed, light cardboard, box clearly stamped with his name and bearing an image of the vehicle contained in the box. It is accepted by me as an attributed Code 3 model.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille, front bumper, numberplate [cast lettering: AM27K] and front lights (including the side lights) are picked out in silver paint. Each side carries a decal or label with coloured "ebaY.co.uk" lettering plus red and black "Buy it NOW" lettering. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting with the numberplate in the body colour, the rear indicators highlighted in silver and red, and the rear bumpers highlighted in silver. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a hand painted silver center "hub". The centre still has the 8 spoke pattern.

The base plate is gloss black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It was originally held in place with two machined rivets which have been drilled out when the model was disassembled. Currently the baseplate is loosly glued in place but I may re-rivet at some stage.

The original model was issued 1972-79, this Code 3 version was produced in 2010.

Item: 1389

 

Item 3131


 

This model is the Dinky 410-H Bedford Van in Yellow "Bedford Parts" livery. It was unboxed when I purchased it as a Code 3 item. It is accepted by me as an unattributed Code 3 model unless further information comes to hand.

This model has no working parts. At the front the grille and front lights (including the side lights), front bumper and numberplate are all picked out in silver paint. Each side carries a decal (water slide transfer?) with red "Bedford Parts, Parts without Compromise" lettering on two lines plus a Bedford logo on the front doors. The rear lights, door hinges, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting with the rear indicators being highlighted in red, the hinges and bumpers being silver and the rear numberplate being the body colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle.

The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic without a "chromed" center "hub". The centre still has the 8 spoke pattern to the hub.

The base plate appears to be silver plated tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets and there is no indication that the model has been disassembled at any time, the original red paint being visible on the underside.

The original model was issued 1972-79, I have no idea when this Code 3 version was made, probably post 2010.

Item: 3131

 

Item 3423


     

    This model is the Dinky 410-H Bedford Van in red "Lancia Alitalia" livery. It was unboxed when I purchased it and since I cannot locate any reference to Dinky or John Gay having produced this model, it is accepted by me as an unattributed Code 3 model.

    This model has no working parts. At the front the grille and front lights (including the side lights) are picked out in silver paint. The front bumper and number plate are silver also. Each side carries a different decal (water slide transfer?) with black "Lancia Alitalia" lettering on the left side and "Campioni Del Mondo" on the right side. The front doors have "Champion" decals and the rear doors a "campagnolo" decal. The rear lights, bumpers and numberplate are cast into the body casting and painted in the body colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof WITH square in the middle.

    The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

    All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" center "hub" in an 8 spoke pattern.

    The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets and there is no indication that the model has been disassembled.

    The original model was issued 1972-79, I do not know when this Code 3 version was made.

    Item: 3423

     

    Item 3424


       

      This model is the Dinky 410-H Bedford Van in dark blue "Express Parcels Traffic" livery. It was unboxed when I purchased it and since I cannot locate any reference to Dinky or John Gay having produced this model, it is accepted by me as an unattributed Code 3 model.

      This model has no working parts. At the front the grille and front lights (including the side lights) are picked out in silver paint. The front bumper is silver but the number plate is in the body colour. Each side carries a decal (water slide transfer?) with white "Express Parcels Traffic" lettering on two lines. The rear lights, bumpers and number plate are cast into the body casting and painted in the body colour. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type R" - ribbed roof WITHOUT square in the middle.

      The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear with moulded wipers and interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

      All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow one piece plastic with a "chromed" center "hub" in an 8 spoke pattern.

      The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets and there is no indication that the model has been disassembled.

      The original model was issued 1972-79, I do not know when this Code 3 version was made.

      Item: 3424

       

      Item 3425


         

        This model is the Dinky 412-H Bedford Van in dark blue "Pickfords Heavy Haulage" livery. It was unboxed when I purchased it and since I cannot locate any reference to Dinky or John Gay having produced this model (although John Gay did produce a 410 Bedford in Pickfords livery), it is accepted by me, at this time, as an unattributed Code 3 model.

        This model has no working parts. At the front the grille is white and the front lights (including the side lights) are picked out in silver paint but the indicators are in orange. The front bumper and number plate are silver. Each side carries a decal (water slide transfer?) with white "Pickfords Heavy Haulage" lettering. The front of the bonnet and the rear doors carry a white "Pickfords" decal. The roof still carries the light box and is painted dark blue with orange light on top. The rear lights are picked out in red and orange, the bumpers and number plate are cast into the body casting and painted in silver. The rear doors (cast, non-opening) carry a cast "Bedford" badge. The roof is a "Type S" - ribbed roof with square in the middle that is covered by the roof light box.

        The interior is white plastic and the glazing is clear WITHOUT moulded wipers but with interior rear view mirror at the front and a line down each side door window. There is no glazing in the rear doors.

        All wheels are of the "speed wheel" type - hollow, one piece, black plastic center "hub" in an 8 spoke pattern.

        The base plate appears to be black painted tin plate and is marked with Dinky Toys on two lines at the centre top, "Bedford Van" in the centre middle and Made in England at the centre bottom. It is held in place with two machined rivets and there is no indication that the model has been disassembled.

        The original model was issued 1971-79, I do not know when this Code 3 version was made.

        Item: 3425